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Friday, March 18, 2011

Theology: Evangelical Fred Sanders dialogues with Karl Rahner



Frank Viola's Reimagining Church (Mar15,2k11) "Rediscovering  the Triune Nature of God" is a fine introduction to authentic ins+t into Trinity, an Intertestamental stance of some rabbis (according to Ephraim Urbach The Sages) and mature Christian theology.  Unfortunately, Viola is a fetishist of "organic church" which he considers the top-notch 'missional' stance*, but also is unimaginably a student of Fred Sanders (Biola University theologian in Los Angeles), the leading perichoretic trinitarian theologian in North America (even G.C. Berkouwer did not write a volume devoted to the trinit y doctrine in his Studies in Dogmatics) -- Sanders being  in turn a critical yet appreciative student of the best trinitarian thawt extant. He wrote his dissertation on the German Catholic liberal Jesuit Karl Rahner's immanentizing theory of Trinity.  These thinkers have developed and sustained the wonderful full-version of perichoresis, the perichoretic understanding of the Trinity.  This is the view of Trinity also taken by Jeremy Ive (Anglican pastor and theologian about to be PhD'd by King's College, London UK), in his dissertation on Christian philosophers Herman Dooyeweerd's and DHTh Vollenhoven's  Trinitarian commitments and understanding.  Ive is a reformational theologian and conflict-resolution analyst of international relations, who in that role takes what I regard as a stance of Christian political realism, not a simplistic pacificism, in our zigzag path to the all-dimensional Kingdom of God's peace, full-blown Shalom!  Unlike yodererists such as Shane Clairborne, who at least nevertheless



Jesus in Trinitarian Perspective: An Introductory Christology

Jesus in Trinitarian Perspective: An Introductory Christology
By Scott Horrell, Donald Fairbairn, Garrett DeWeese, Bruce Ware  Edited with contributions by Fred Sanders and Klaus Issler


supports the new monastics -- even hermits, like me, who actually live in poverty, chastity and stability-basded obedience without baptizing leftistm and statist politics of welfarism.  God bless Sanders, Ive, and the very different Clairborne.
Let Viola give the blogging gleaners access to his fields, the stuff by which he secures his monetary income (and let him not pretend this blogged writing of his is "tentmaking," neither Jesus carpentered with his hands, nor did Paul make tents with his hand ... Jesus was the son of a building contractor, and Paul ran a tentmaking business, in both cases the hands, the workers, lived with the contractor and businessman).

*My most pointed objection to Frank Viola has shited from his missionism to his morals -- his blogging morals, to be precise.  He's rich, with loads of advertized materials for sale and lush websites/blogsites and a cult following.  He, therefore, is unconvincing when he forbids impecunious fellow Christians and heretics ( some woud say the periochoretic doctrine of Trinity is unbiblical and heretical speculation) to glean from his website with his original material (which this impecuniate, for one, is quite happy to credit to him).  He won't let us glean from his fields of webbed/blogged materials, while nevertheless he 're-writes' in his review of Sanders and thereby profits from the principles of blogging -- immediacy and dissemination -- while refusing to allow his juniors (like me) to do the same.  Is that 'organic' body-of-Christ blogging? He wants to restrict dissemination -- an anti-Protestant position for a Christian blogger indeed.  What woud have happened to Luther's 95 Theses were he to have restricted dissemination only to those who paid for his hypothetical disseminary indulgences.  I believe also that the gleaning  shoud extend beyond the orchard-stealing that Aquinas said was not sin for those who had no food, I believe the same principles shoud extend to civil disobedience in regard to large corporate news entities who try to prevent blogger gleaning, and to govts like Obama's which try to enact ever more restrictive copyright laws, when the new technical means require a much shorter restrictiive shelf-law (say 30 minutes) for news items, at the very least.

The Image of the Immanent Trinity (Issues in Systematic Theology)

The Image of the Immanent Trinity (Issues in Systematic Theology)
By Sanders Fred

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If "the economic Trinity is the immanent Trinity," as Karl Rahner said, then what difference does it make for how we read the Bible? This book takes up the discussion that has dominated the last several decades of Trinitarian theology-that of Rahner's Rule-and brings it into dialogue with the longer history of the doctrine, particularly with the history of interpretation of scripture. The history of Trinitarianism is the history of complex interpretive moves, a long conversation in which the Christian church has sought to learn how to ask the right questions of scripture. Surveying recent theological projects and learning from their successes and failures, The Image of the Immanent Trinity argues that the eternally perfect fellowship of Father, Son, and Spirit is truly present for our salvation in Christ who, as the image of the invisible God, secures God's presence in the economy of salvation as the image of the immanent Trinity.

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